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I worked on Ribble at Aintree, Liverpool Corporation at Green Lane, MPTE at Penny Lane and Sheffield United Tours in the late 1960’s early 1970’s


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Ribble Motor Services. Aintree Garage

I began my ‘bus life’ working at Aintree in October 1966 as a Conductor. A couple of training days at Preston Head Offices, I was found a temporary uniform Dust Jacket to use on the buses. I still have it. I got my PSV Conductors Badge CC112856 – which I also still have.

I began two weeks ‘on the road’ training with an experienced Conductor. My first duty on a Ribble bus was on Leopard DP 824 to Waddicar Church. Ribble Aintree buses not only served the villages of South West Lancashire, but also operated part of the “Joint Services” with Liverpool Corporation in the Netherton and Litherland suburbs.

After my training period, I was allocated a driver, Ronnie Wright. He had only recently passed his PSV Driving Test so we were both new to our jobs, although Ronnie had been a Conductor at Aintree for some years.

The buses we used on the Joints were mainly open platform Leyland Titans in the Ribble 13xx and 14xx series. Routes were 58 St Johns Lane to Litherland, 59 St Johns Lane to Netherton and 54, which ran form Seaforth Docks to Copy Lane roundabout. St Johns Lane was often known as Haymarket and was outside the entrance to the Mersey Tunnel.

The 54 was the “yo-yo” bus we called it. Only one bus operated the service and it was every half an hour from each end and about a 15 minute run between termini. Ronnie and I used to play games on the 54 like seeing how long or how quick we could take between Seaforth and Copy Lane especially in the cold winter’s evenings. A favourite of ours was to see how many times we could go round and round the Copy Lane Roundabout before we headed back to Seaforth!

At times we used to go on the main Ribble routes along Ormskirk Road towards Skelmersdale, Ormskirk and the North Eastern Liverpool suburbs of Lydiate and Maghull. Those included routes 101, 201, and 301, to Preston, Skelmersdale and Ormskirk. Skelmersdale was then a small village with the ‘New Town’ construction starting. The larger buses in the 15xx, 17xx and 18xx series were used and also the two Atlanteans allocated to Aintree.

I left Ribble as I wanted to be a PSV Driver and Ribble would not teach you until you were 25yrs old. Liverpool Corporation was in short supply of drivers, so I went there instead.


Part Time on Ribble

In 1971 Ribble allowed ‘part-time’ drivers to cover weekend and overtime work as the Driver’s Hours Regulations had been tightened. I became the first Ribble part-time driver on 6 March 1971 the Saturday it started. I left Aintree at 06.03 that morning.

I spent several months doing this work, driving the Titans and the two Atlanteans 1629 and 1630 until I moved back to Sheffield United Tours for another season’s work.


Ribble Buses
Joint Services operated from  Aintree used the Leyland Titan PD2/MCW of the 13xx and 14xx series.  Seen in May 1980, at The Pier Head, Liverpool on a Sunday is Bootle Garage 1481 on the 57A service to Netherton.  Ribble destination rolls only had letters on the left hand roll so it reads A57.  The Joint Services including 58 & 59 worked by Aintree terminated here on Saturday after 1pm and Sunday instead of St John's Lane. (Photo : Geoff Lumb from Ribble Vol2 MDS Books 1994)
 
Used on the routes along Ormskirk Road into South West Lancashire were Leyland Titan buses of the 15xx, 17xx and 18xx series.  Another Bootle bus is 1562 a Titan PD3/Burlingham of 1957.  Seen at St John's Lane on route 55A, it has just arrived from Ford.  (Photo:- Arnold Richardson / Photobus.from Ribble Vol2 MDS Books 1994)
Aintree Garage had two Leyland Atlanteans 1629 & 1630 similar to the LCPT ones.  Built in 1959 is MCW bodied 1629 seen at the Park Lane Lodge terminus the early 1980's   (Photo :-  Arnold Richardson / Photobus from Ribble Vol2 MDS Books 1994.)   
Mt first duty on Ribble was on Leyland Leopard DP 824.  Similar vehicle 827 is seen operating the X11 service to Liverpool.  (Photo :- T B Maund / Alan Townsin from Ribble Vol2 MDS Books 1994)
 
Ribble comes to New Zealand??? Assisting Darren Frazer of the Salvation Army in Southland NZ, to locate a Double Decker in the UK.  Stagecoach UK suggested ex Ribble Olympian 2177 expected to leave the UK 9 Oct 2004.   The bus is seen at Lillyhall in August 2004 before export.  (Photo ; - Alistair Grey, Workington).
Don's HiAce van in Ribble livery
The rear window has a graphic of 5 Ribble buses Detail of the Graphic, Photos from Ribble Vol2 MDS Books 1994

 


Liverpool Corporation

I started working for The “Corpi” in May 1967. My 21st Birthday was spent in the Training School in Edge Lane.

My Garage was Green Lane, which was not too far from my home in Lydford Road, off Muirhead Avenue East. I spent about a month as a Conductor on all the West Derby Road and Prescot Road routes. Green Lane was mainly a Leyland garage where we had Titans and Atlanteans.

I was soon accepted into the Driving School passed my PSV test on A40 in June 1967. I became red badge holder CC88364. My first drive in an Atlantean was in L624 along Muirhead Avenue East.

One afternoon whilst on a Conductors ‘split’ I was asked to go to Broadway and drive for the first time in service, on Route 17. I remember the Conductress was not that keen when I said that I’d never driven in service before and it was Rush Hour!

I then settled into a routine of driving on all the Green Lane routes at that time we did not have OMO of the buses, so it was a lovely life sitting there driving all day watching Liverpool go by my cab window! Life was much easier on LCPT than on Ribble, we got more pay and the shifts were 6hrs 20mins long not the up to 8hrs on Ribble.

Soon I went back to Sheffield and left LCPT and Green Lane, but I would return a few years later.



Don on LCPT 1967
Waiting to drive route 92, an Industrial Service to Page Moss in 1965 Atlantean L712 at Fazakerley August 1967.
 
Route 74 terminus in Sir Thomas Street, August 1967 in central Liverpool, with an Atlantean.
10 September 1967. Green Lane Garage with Atlantean L726, a 1965 PDR1.
With Brian Reeve his A30 and Atlantean L807, a 1966 PDR1. 10 September 1967 Green Lane Garage
At Green Lane Garage with Titan L373, a 1952 PD12 / Weymann. 10 September 1967.
At Green Lane Garage, 10 September 1967 in the cab of Atlantean L807.

Photos : Don Roberts Collection 1967



Merseyside Passenger Transport Executive

I went back to Liverpool working for the MPTE. This time I was at Prince Alfred Road or as everyone called it, Penny Lane. PAR ran the routes to the Eastern Suburbs of Liverpool then extended out to Netherley, mainly along Wavertree Road.

PAR was a garage of mixed bus types with AEC Regent V, Leyland Atlanteans and Panthers. The Atlanteans included the longer Alexander versions known as “Jumbos” because of their size. I loved the Panthers on Route 99 and 46, they were just like a coach being 36ft long.

By 1971 OMO was in operation and the ‘easy life’ of simply being a PSV driver had all but gone and I was both Driver and Conductor at the same time.

Some duties were reasonably easy but 61 Bootle – Aigburth was a very difficult route. It was like having a busload of passengers on and a busload off at every 3 rd Bus Stop at times along the route, especially in the Industrial areas! It was also a very long route and took well over an hour from one end to the other.

At PAR I drove each of the three ‘Experimental’ buses Liverpool had trialed, E1, E2 and E3.

I left MPTE in September 1972 to come to New Zealand.


Liverpool Buses
Leyland Atlantean PDR1 / MCW body L501.  380 similar buses were supplied to Liverpool 1962-1967 (Photo : LCPT)
Leyland Atlantean PDR2/1 / Alexander body 1143, a "Jumbo"  49 similar buses were supplied to Liverpool 1969-1970 (Photo : LCPT)
110 Leyland Panther / MCW bodies were supplied to LCPT 1968/1969. I drove these from PAR garage. (Photo : LCPT)
An AEC Regent V / MCW of 1957 A217 as used at PAR. (Photo : LCPT)
L475 a Roberts bodied Titan PD2/1 of 1951. (Photo : LCPT)
Titan PD2/20 / Crossley of 1956. (Photo : LCPT)

Photos : Don Roberts Collection 1967


Sheffield United Tours Ltd

As a 3 rd Year teaching Student in Sheffield money was tight and I had the PSV driving ‘bug’ in me. SUT advertised for part-time drivers, I applied and got a position for weekends / evenings. I was driving a coach for the first time and with passengers that I had to talk to!

My first duty was a Blackpool Express with 355 an AEC Reliance / Plaxton Panorama. SUT was an ‘all AEC / Plaxton’ company and part of the BET Grouping. They had one Leyland Leopard / Plaxton No 333.

I spent several years with SUT part-time working on Express, Tours and Private Hire work all over the UK and Europe. I spent all my weekends and school holidays with SUT. I took up full-time work with SUT with Tours in Germany. I also worked unusual duties such as collecting broken down coaches from all over Europe as I became the Company “goffa” My longest trip was for 30 days with a group of Canadian students as we travelled all over Europe.

I met my friend and true “Gentleman” Michael Gillott on SUT. He was also a part-time driver and we spent several years as a team with him working as driver and ‘jockey’ or with him working the UK side of a Tour, the passengers of which I collected at The Hook of Holland. We used 375 and 395 on that Rhineland Tour in 1971.

For a short time I was the First Team Coach Driver for Sheffield Wednesday Football Club and attended many First Division games.

I ended my SUT Driving Time in late 1971 when I came back to Liverpool for the last time.


SUT Coaches
272, a 1957 AEC Reliance / Burlingham Seagull body seen in August 1972 in Edensor Terrace, Everton, Liverpool where my Dad grew up. Don Roberts Collection
 
The only Leyland in the SUT fleet in my time, 333.  Leopard PSU3/3R  This coach  was regularly used on the Morecambe Express by Michael Gillot and myself Peter Fraser Collection
349 a 1963 Reliance with Plaxton Panorama body at Morecambe Bus Station 27 September 1970. Don Roberts Collection
The first coach I drove on SUT.  355 a 1965 36ft Reliance. I drove her on the Blackpool PM Express 5 June 1968. Seen in Charlotte Road Garage in September 1970. Don Roberts Collection
Outside SUT Charlotte Road is 376 a 1966 Reliance used as Sheffield Wednesday's 1st Team coach for many years. The coach was painted in SWFC colours and always kept in good condition. Peter Fraser Collection
SUT Reliance 388 I used on the 12 day Lucerne Tour during 1969.  Fitted with the newer Plaxton Panorama body style introduced in 1965. Peter Fraser Collection
During the troubles in Northern Ireland, SUT 380 was firebombed in June 1970 in Kerry by the IRA. Seen the morning after the incident. Don Roberts Collection
 
The chassis of 380 was brought back to Sheffield and is seen in Charlotte Road.  It was later fitted with a Plaxton Elite body in 1971. Don Roberts Collection
Reliance 382 of 1967 at Charlotte Road in 1970.Don Roberts Collection
395 was the second coach I used on The Rhineland Tour in 1971.  Seen parked in Heidelberg by the castle.  395 was one of only two coaches fitted with a white steering wheel.Don Roberts Collection
395 is sen in Zell-am-Zee on The Mosel River whilst on a day excursion from Koblenz where I was based in 1971.  AEC 590 engine fitted and ZF 6-speed gearbox. Don Roberts Collection
Marksburg Castle in The Rhine Valley is the backdrop for 395 in this July 1971 shot with me in the driving seat.  Note the illuminated SUT fleetname above the front wheel. Don Roberts Collection
 
Used as reserve SWFC coach, 399 is a 12meter Reliance of 1969, with AEC691 engine. I used similar 395 on the North Wales Express service in 1970. Peter Fraser Collection
 
402 is a 32ft 'short' Elite of 1969.  Fitted with an AEC505 engine. Peter Fraser Collection
Based at Rudesheim in The Rhine Valley, I used this coach as a relief vehicle when 375 broke down in July 1971.  412 is seen in SUT garage in later  1971. Don Roberts Collection
 
The 'newest' coach I ever drove on SUT was 416 a 1971 11 meter Reliance.  I used her on a Blackpool Illuminations trip on 2 October 1971, one of my last duties on SUT.  Peter Fraser Collection
 
The last coach delivered in traditional SUT Grey / Red livery was 424 of 1972.  She was transferred to Green Line in 1978 and is seen in their livery.  It was also the last of the SUT Reliance / Plaxton combinations that had started in 1958 and had become the standard for SUT for 14 years. Peter Fraser Collection
 

 

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