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Welcome to my Webpage: - I’m Don Roberts and now based in Putaruru in the North Island of New Zealand.

Background

My interest in Ribble Motor Services began as a child in Liverpool where I was brought up. My parents never had a car, so all my travel was by public transport either with Liverpool Corporation, Ribble or Crosville. I was born in Birkenhead and still had a Grandmother that lived there, so I also used the Mersey Ferries and Birkenhead and Wallasey buses. Local Passenger Transport was in my “blood” from birth and I used it until I was 18yrs old when I got my first car.

In late 1966, I found myself with a year off Teachers Training College and waited in the corridor in Crosville’s Edge Lane Depot in Liverpool. I waited and waited and in the end walked out …into the ‘arms of Ribble’ at Aintree where I became a Conductor on the “Joint Services” and also the rural routes into Lancashire. I simply loved the bus life and was hooked. I made lifelong friends there and life was just ‘fun’ on the buses.

Soon I wanted to drive rather than conduct, and I made the move to Liverpool Corporation at Green Lane close to my home in Lydford Road. I trained as a PSV Driver and was soon in charge of Atlanteans, Titans, and enjoying every minute I could get behind the wheel.

I returned to my Teacher Training in Sheffield and was soon working part-time on Sheffield United Tours and that turned into full seasonal work over some 5years, working throughout the UK and Europe. I worked for Ribble or Liverpool, the MPTE by then, in the winters. I was Ribble’s first Part-Time Driver in March 1971, working from Aintree. Most of 1972 was spent working on the MPTE from 'Penny Lane' Garage - officially Prince Alfred Road - where I drove AEC Regents, Leyland Atlanteans, Panthers and Titans.  The Panthers were my favourite using them on routes 46 and 99. I came to NZ in late 1972, taught and continued my part-time driving and bus interests.

In mid 2003, an accident at work again gave me time off and I turned to developing my NZ Bus interests more. I decided to buy a bus….

I had lived in Christchurch for about a year in 1984/85, and I loved the Bristol RE buses that were the mainstay of that fleet. ”English buses” some with ECW bodies in an “ English City” and they were even in almost Ribble livery.

However it was the Swiss sourced “Hess” design on the Bristol RE that attracted me back n the 1980s’

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UK Driving

I worked on Ribble at Aintree, Liverpool Corporation at Green Lane, MPTE at Penny Lane and Sheffield United Tours in the late 1960’s early 1970’s more info


Information about 608

608 was numerically the last of the 148 Bristol RE buses supplied to Christchurch Transport Board from 1974, plus two unbodied chassis used for spares.  They were CTB Fleet Nos 457 - 608...  (457 & 458 were renumbered to 475 & 476.)
 
The RE chassis which were built up in Nelson in the South Island, were not bodied in exact numerical order, 599 has the last of the RE chassis supplied.  
 
Chassis 2517-2524 & 2553 'held back' in 1980 for designated use on Charter and Tours work, were fitted with a 5-speed gearbox for 100kph operation and a spare wheel.  Both are retained by 608.  When bodied these chassis became CTB's 608 - 601 and 600 in that reversed order.
 
608 is Chassis No RELL / 3 / 2517.  Rego JN9626. New to CTB  October 1980, withdrawn CTB September 1991. 
 
The Swiss designed aluminium "Carosserie Hess A. G." body was built under licence by NZ Motor Bodies in Christchurch.  Originally B47D, converted 1987 to C45F at Coachwork, Christchurch by fitting a new flat floor, coach seats, side lockers,  public address / tape system.   The rest of the Hess fleet remained as B47D.
 
There were 94 Hess bodied RE's supplied to CTB after 54 similar RE chassis fitted with ECW style bodies were built by Auckland's Hawke Body Builders.
 
608 is fitted with a Leyland 510 Turbocharged engine, 8200cc, 200hp, fitted to a 5-speed epicyclic semi-automatic gearbox.  Spring suspension.  Air activated parking brake. 
 
 
RE Hess Update :-
 
CTB re-engined 21 of their RE's with MAN units, becoming RELL6M.  One has later been converted with a Volvo unit, becoming RELL6V. These have proved successful in service with the newer operators.  Some Hess bodies removed from RE's have been rebuilt onto other chassis by Designline, Ashburton and Kiwi Bus Builders, Tauranga, most onto Volvo, one onto a Mercedes / Kiwi  and one onto a Nissan / Hino combination.

Purchase of CTB608

With my renewed interest in NZ’s buses, I went photographing the fleets and someone suggested “You should buy a bus” I went looking at what was available, interesting to me and “historical”. I didn’t want a dual door City-bus and it was the Hess bodied buses that attracted my attention.

In January 2004, I spotted ex CTB608 sitting in Leopard Coachlines in Christchurch. She had been a dual door City-bus originally, but fitted with a 5-speed gearbox and spare wheel. CTB converted her to a full single door Coach in 1987 for use on City / Ports Tours and Charter work.

A further visit to Christchurch in May to re-view her and drive her to Lyttleton. Very friendly discussions with Leopard Manager Brent Early were held and an Agreement to Purchase was soon made. Ex CTB608 was bought.


What's Next for 608



Preservation is the goal of the purchase, but the acquisition of a Passenger Service Licence means that I have the abilities to Charter her out for trips and this is the short term aim. This is 608 repainted into Ribble livery. She moved to the North Island on 1 October 2004. CTB Red band, Ribble lower case fleetname, dark grey skirt, red wheels and chrome front wheel nut guards.  A livery similar to that applied to Ribble's Plaxton Elite's of the early 1970's.


Before 608 there was 456

608 is not the first ex CTB bus that I have owned.  In mid 1992, I spotted ex CTB456 sitting in a Whakatane  Caravan Dealers yard.   By December 1994, I swapped an Audi Coupe GT for 456 and she came to the Eastern Bay of Plenty town of Edgecumbe, to be converted into an Exhibition Vehicle, but was eventually sold in 1996 to Gisborne for a Movan.
 
This was the only AEC Swift 5P5R chassis to come to New Zealand and was bodied by NZMB in 1973. as a B43D, with what was described as a "Leyland National vague look-alike".  Two other AEC Swift's joined the CTB fleet in 1977 they being 3MP2R versions fitted with Hawke ECW style bodies - Nos 457 & 458. 
 
The Chassis History ... the true story...
 
The Swift 5P5R chassis of 456, No 5P5R / 887, had been part of the large order for Adelaide Transport in Australia, but had been "dropped onto the quayside" when unloading and damaged.  Replaced by AEC, the unfortunate chassis, after repair, ended up in New Zealand and was used as a Demonstrator by the AEC Agents. 
 
The bus was heavy at the rear axle and a buyer was difficult to find, but she ended up in CTB's hands.  Originally fitted with an AEC691 engine and a 2-stage automatic gearbox which was not successful, this was later replaced with an AEC 505 engine and standard epicyclic 4-speed gearbox the same as all the CTB AEC Reliance's then in the fleet.  Due to the heavy body / chassis combination, 456 was very restricted in her service abilities and spent most of her time on the Airport route.
 
I have most of the interior signage and AEC Wings badge off the front of 456.
Another Ribble Aintree Depot route and destination 201 Skelmersdale

Me and 456 in Whakatane Summer 1995 in Edgecumbe with the built in front door;
Summer 1995 Edgecumbe. My favourite route and destination Aintree Depot 321    

Links

Link web sites at http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robsly/ctbre.html  which shows "RE Survivors in NZ" and at http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robsly/jn9626.html  specifically for 608.   

There are several RE books available
 
The Bristol RE - 40 Years of Service      by Duncan Roberts. Pub 2003 NBC Books. books@northbus.co.uk
Family Profile...The Bristol RE                 by Simon Butler  Pub 1987 Trevellan Books  ISBN 1870484002
Bus Monographs No 5  Bristol RE           by Martin Curtis.  Pub 1987 Ian Allan  ISBN 0711016836

 

Email me at Ribble@xtra.co.nz

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